Episode 48

Episode 48 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Paintings with body – MEG LIPKE, artist, Brooklyn
Recorded November 17, 2021, 39 min., Language: english.

On her birthday Brooklyn based artist Meg Lipke took the time to talk in depth about her early influences, her family, her art and the body in all meanings and possible expressions. She finds her inspirations in art history, other artists, but also in the women of her own family, which once owned a textile mill. Her grandmother, mother and aunt expressed themselves – their grief and joy – through creating art and craft with textiles and yarn. Meg is deeply interested in bodily experiences, the perceptions of the female body, the need to inhabit and embrace our bodies wholly and consciously to be fully alive and especially the body of painting, which she explores since many years. Meg found her own way in painting by leaving the flat plane of the canvas, creating stuffed, bulgy, organic forms that carry paint and color and give the impression of each having it’s own individual personality. As a painter Meg is obsessed with art history, with iconography and with the way how through pigment and surface stories can be created that are about our humanity – and our bodies.
Here more information about Meg:
Instagram: @meglipke

Episode 47

Episode 47 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Rearranging the collection – BRIGITTE KÖLLE, curator, head of collections for contemporary art at Hamburger Kunsthalle
Recorded November 18, 2021, 35 min., language english

In this episode Brigitte Kölle, curator and head of collections of contemporary art at Hamburger Kunsthalle talks how she became first interested in art through one of her schoolmates, who went on to study art. She then took art classes herself before deciding to go into art history and cultural studies. She describes the art world of the late 1980s and 90s in detail – an impactful internship at Konrad Fischer Galerie, meeting some of the important artists of that time, before going to New York and encountering for the first time woman curators like Lynne Cook and Marsha Tucker. To once have had practical experiences in creating art enables her now to understand art on a profound level and to look deeply at it, which makes a big difference in her own exhibition making. She talks the process of curating exhibitions, working with and rearranging the collection of the Museum and the discussions and teamwork this requires. She shares some personal and private thoughts about her life as a curator, head of collections, woman and mother. In her practice art always comes first.

Episode 46

Episode 46 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Work beyond words – JULIETA ARANDA, artist, filmmaker, co-Director of e-Flux.
Recorded November 4, 2021, 36 min., Language english

Julieta Aranda, Berlin based artist and filmmaker is since many years contributor, co-director and collaborator with Anton Vidokle of the online platform e-flux. She is also organizing this years conversations for Art Basel. Julieta has exhibited her works internationally including the Venice Biennial, Berlin Biennial, documenta, the Guggenheim etc. She talks her background, growing up in Mexico and leaving home at fourteen, paving a path on her own. She talks her artistic process, how she took up the task to look at the dark side of things, the hidden underbelly of society, themes and movements and that she only feels drawn to create a work of art when language fails her to understand the topic – when it is beyond words. Every work of art requires a different medium, a different strategy to be created and Julieta listens intently to each work to find the right means to bring it into the world. If not creating works of art she writes, communicates with people, brings them together and tries to find ways to collaborate and make the life of each person easier. You will find many interviews, videos and information on Julieta online. Follow our Instagram @van_horn_duesseldorf or @voicesonart The Podcast is vailable on https://van-horn.net, Anchor, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and many other platforms. Portrait photo by Peyton Fulford.

Episode 45

Episode 45 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Hospital Rooms – TIM SHAW, artist and co-founder, London, recorded October 18, 2021, 35 min., language english.

Artist Tim Shaw founded, together with his partner Niamh White, a curator, Hospital Rooms after a close friend of them had to be hospitalized in a mental ward. Hospital Rooms brings great art into spaces where it is really making a difference – working with psychiatric units all over the UK. Listen to Tim’s truly inspiring story how artists and art can shape difficult spaces in an energizing way and how the personal empathy and engagement of, in the beginning, just two people, creates a field that affects society and humanity in a profound way.

Episode 44

Episode 44 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / THE RIGHT FRACTURES – ALAIN SERVAIS, collector of contemporary art, Belgium, recorded September 30, 2021, 57 min., language english

Coming from finance and with a deep rooted interest in the arts, politics, sociology, philosophy and the humanities, collector Alain Servais speaks his mind and does not hold back. He talks finding his own voice and becoming really good at something by having the right fractures. He found himself in art because it opened his mind to new dimensions and new kinds of people. Being exposed to other people’s view of the world greatly improved his vision of the world. Art for him is not contemplation or pleasure, art is having to make an effort, to work on oneself and pushing oneself to the limit – to feeling comfortable being uncomfortable. He is especially interested in contemporary art, young art, the art that needs to be preserved today because nobody understands or values it. By collecting it he is preserving a slice of humanity. Art changed his life and for him art is a way of living, not separated from life, politics and the larger society. Recorded September 30, 2021, 57 min., language english

Episode 43

Episode 43 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Judith Bernstein, artist and activist, New York City
Recorded 23 September 2021, 45 min., language english.

For over 50 years, New York-based artist Judith Bernstein has created expressive drawings and paintings that boldly critique militarism and machismo in a manner that is at once humorous and threatening. Since graduating from Yale in 1967, Bernstein has developed a reputation as one of the most unwaveringly provocative artists of her generation. Steadfast in her cultural, political and social critique she surged into art world prominence in the early 1970s with her monumental charcoal drawings of penis-screw hybrids. In this Episode Judith talks the inspiration of men’s bathrooms, the glass ceiling women had to face in the artworld of the 60s and 70s, the founding of A.I.R. the first all women’s art gallery, her rage at injustice and her partcipating in activist groups like the Guerilla Girls. She talks her family background, her first exhibitions, the long years of being out in the water, her coming back and her upcoming exhibitions and she reveals that the strongest relationship in the world she has is with art.

Episode 42

Episode 42 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Vito Schnabel, gallerist, art dealer, curator
recorded August 10, 2021, 33 min., language english.

This is a special Episode produced in collaboration with the Independent Art Fair, New York City. Vito Schnabel, art dealer, gallerist and curator, with gallery branches in New York City and St. Moritz, talks his early years and young adulthood, playing Basketball on the streets of New York City and visiting art exhibitions. He talks his insecurities and challenges and how those helped him to grow. He shares how the dialogue with his sister Lola, who is an artist, and her artist friends shaped his own understanding of art and highlights how important the support of his mother and her belief in him was. He relates how him being open, listening intently and evaluating what happened around him helped him finding his own language in the arts. Early on he started curating and met important artists like Ron Gorchov or the great René Ricard who became friends and mentors and whose expertise and wisdom he was soaking up and valued greatly. Vito talks friendship, his passion for painting and their capacity to be portals also in the 21st Century for anybody who wants to see. This years Independent Art Fair will be the first fair Vito is attending in his home town. There he will show new paintings by extraordinary painter Jorge Galindo in a solo-presentation.

Episode 41

Episode 41 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Maysha Mohamedi, artist & painter, Los Angeles,
recorded Aug. 3, 2021, 42 min., language english

This is a special Episode produced in collaboration with the Independent Art Fair, New York City. Artist and painter Maysha Mohamedi talks her background in science, the similiarities between science and art – and the differences. She gives a very clear analysis what it means for her to be an artist, her need to express herself in her paintings, how she wants to create believable marks and lines and that she needs to have a large percentage of her life to herself in her studio, which is a world where she can think and do anything. She talks her desire to become exceptional at something, to be an expert and sees artists in line with highly trained, specialized athletes, who need to concentrate on one special skill to be able to be exceptional. She talks her first experiences with art through seeing an exhibition of paintings by her mother, her life in the studio and at home with her kids and husband and relates her own painting process, using found or created tools and bodyparts to create marks that make up her energetic, large-scale abstractions. At the Independent Art Fair franklin parrasch gallery / parrasch heijnen will present an intergenerational show of her paintings in juxtaposition with a work by John Wesley, who is one of her favourite artists and on whom she completed her graduate dissertation.

Episode 40

Episode 40 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Karla Knight, artist and painter, Connecticut, recorded 21 July, 2031, 31 min., language english

This is a special Episode produced in collaboration with the Independent Art Fair, New York City. My guest Karla Knight, artist and painter based in Connecticut, is a force onto herself. In this Episode she talks her growing up in a family that was very interested in the otherworldly, the occult and the spiritual – which inspired Karla to dive deep into the unknown within her own paintings. From an early age on she knew who she is – an artist – never tiring to follow her own path and being utterly independent in life and art. In her paintings she developed her own imaginary language, inspired by her son’s early lettering. At this year’s Independent Art Fair she will debut her new tapestries, which are influenced by Lakota Winter counts, in a solo-presentation with Andrew Edlin Gallery. Following this will be her first institutional solo exhibition with a survey of her work at the Aldrich, opening Fall 2021. 

Episode 39

Episode 39 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Nicelle Beauchene, founder of the eponymus gallery for contemporary art, New York City. Recorded July 22, 2021, 36 min., Language: english

This is a special Episode produced in collaboration with the Independent Art Fair, New York City. My guest is Nicelle Beauchene, founder of the eponymous gallery in New York, former president of the board of NADA (New Art Dealers Alliance) and co-founder, with Franklin Parrasch, of Parts & Labor in Beacon. In this talk Nicelle covers her life, from growing up in a farm town in Connecticut,  becoming a competitive snowboarder, competing against men and falling in love with art through a certain painting at the Wadsworth Atheneum. Her curiosity drew her to roam broader spaces and finally pursuing a career in the arts. She tells how it was for her being a professional woman in the art business while raising three kids. She talks competition vs. collaboration, how she took adversities and disencouragement as challenge and stepping stone. She opened up her gallery while being pregnant, running a succesful art business and having a family. She relates in depth how collaboration and integrity are her core values in working with artists, other galleries, institutions and collectors. She talks passion, ambition, gut feeling and new opportunities coming up, like moving with the gallery to a new space in Tribeca and her upcoming project at Independent, where she will present new works by Louise Despont, the artist she originally opened her gallery with. Nicelle gives an enlightening insight into her relentless support for the artists she works with. Listen to a clear minded and inspirational woman who knows and does what she wants. Recorded July 22, 2021, 36 min. Language: English

Episode 38

Episode 38 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Hana Ward, artist, painter and founder of the ceramic brand Uno + Ichi, Los Angeles. Recorded June 23, 2021, 32 min., Language: english

This is a special Episode created in co-production with Independent Art fair, NYC. Hana Ward is a painter, ceramicist and founder of the ceramic brand Uno + Ichi from Los Angeles, California. Hana talks about how growing up in an artistic household helped her finding her own way into the arts. She witnessed an educational system in the US that – in  her own words – fails black students in manifold ways and through being a teacher herself – and not liking it at all – she understood that painting is what makes her happy. She talks in depth about how she finds inspiration in special books and that relating to her lineage and to the earth helps her go deeper into her painting practice, which she considers to be connected to her spiritual path. Her paintings often touch on themes of liberation, memory, history and diaspora. Through her landscape paintings, she documents focal, yet disappearing parts of her native city while her graphic portraits pay  praise to unsung heroes of our collective legacy. Hana relates in a very personal and honest way what it means to find her way as an artist. Her presentation at Independent Art Fair with Mrs. gallery in NYC will be a premiere for her.

Episode 37

Episode 37 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Susanne Zander, founder and co-owner of Delmes Zander, Cologne, Germany
This talk will also be part of the Independent Art Fair’s OVR in September 2021.
Recorded June 16, 2021, 38 min., Language: english

This is a special Episode created in co-production with Independent Art fair, NYC.  Susanne Zander, founder and co-owner – with Nicole Delmes – of Delmes Zander in Cologne talks in great detail not only about her personal story, but especially about the story of the so called „outsider artists“, whose work is often misunderstood and not appreciated fully when given labels like „self taught“, „outsider“, „naive“ or „Art Brut“. Susanne grew up with collecting parents and a strong and fearless mother, who not only funded a collection of the artists mentioned above, but also just did what she wanted to do in a time when this was even harder for women than it is now. Susanne fell in love with art and artists from an early age on and is taking the exact same approach – forward and fearless. She is a relentless supporter and agent for the special artists Delmes Zander are discovering, working with and bringing – sometimes for the first time – in front of the eyes of an audience. She runs a gallery since 30 years and talks changing times, open and closed minds and the special role the Independent Art Fair played for the gallery. In crossing over genres and labels, in expanding ideas and concepts about art and in bringing the so called „outsider artists“ into a contemporary art context, Delmes Zander hold a unique place among galleries. Listen to a passionate, opinionated and outspoken woman and gallerist. 

Episode 36

Episode 36 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with LaTiesha Fazakas, Gallery for Contemporary Indigenous Art, Vancouver, Canada.
This talk will be also part of the Independent Art Fair OVR in September 2021.
Recorded June 12, 2021, 47 min., Language: english

This is a special Episode created in co-production with Independent Art Fair, NYC. LaTiesha Fazakas, founder of the eponymous gallery for indigenous art in Vancouver, Canada talks her personal story. LaTiesha talks her childhood and youth, from growing up in a working class household, quitting highschool and becoming a teenage mom, to her young adult years in which she decided to finish her education and by accident or destiny enrolled in an art history class, which ultimately changed the course of her life. After having worked for 11 years at a gallery for indigineous art, LaTiesha realized that her approach towards this art and culture is much more open and inclusive than was provided by dealers and art historians until then. LaTiesha talks in detail about one of the artists from which she learned a lot, Beau Dick (who was included in documenta 14 in Athens), how she founded her gallery in 2013 and how she set up a fluid and individual business model that suited the particular needs of all parties involved. She is convinced that art and art history will benefit greatly from including other voices, cultures and especially those skilled and evolved indigenous artists. She gives a glimpse into the future and talks her presentation at Independent in September and her plans to move to a bigger space in 2022. Listen to this enlightening and personal talk with a passionate promoter and lover of indigenous art. 

Episode 35

Episode 35 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / INDEPENDENT SPECIAL with Mills Morán, gallerist, co-founder of Morán Morán and Felix Art Fair, Los Angeles
Recorded June 3, 2021, 38 min. Language: english

In this special Episode, created in collaboration with Independent Art Fair, I talk to Mills Morán, co-founder of the gallery Morán Morán with his brother Al and, together with collector Dean Valentine, of Felix Art Fair in Los Angeles. Mills talks about his childhood in El Salvador, the reasons the family had to leave the country and the different places they settled, before living in Miami and finally in Los Angeles. He talks about how he connected with the artist community and how knowing artists led him and his brother to first found a project space and ultimately the gallery. Mills relates the history of the gallery, giving every aspect of developing the family business together with his brother, his relations to the artists, other galleries and the collectors. He talks how work and relations changed and developed in times of the pandemic and gives an outlook into the future for the gallery as well as the fair. Listen to this informative and engaging talk with a passionate gallerist and supporter of artists. This talk will be also part of the Independent Art Fair OVR in September 2021.

Episode 34

Episode 34 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Florian Peters-Messer, Collector of Contemporary Art, Viersen, Germany
Recorded May 9, 2021, 42 min, Language: English

A talk with Florian Peters-Messer, passionate collector of contemporary art. Florian co-curated the exhibitions „Fuck Your Fear“ at VAN HORN in 2019 and „Empört Euch!/Time For Outrage“ with Linda Peitz at Kunstpalast, Düsseldorf in 2020, where he also serves as member of the boards of the friends of the museum. Florian is the author of two books and runs a family business with seat in Viersen, Germany. He talks about how his art teacher at school ignited the deep and lasting interest for contemporary art in him, how meeting artist Thomas Hirschhorn in the 1990’s changed his whole outlook on art and that he feels more and more drawn to political, social and psychological art.  He talks about his process of collecting, citing examples like „Rotterdam Rostock“ by artist Erik van Lieshout and talks about feeling a certain kind of responsibility to collect and preserve these more complicated works of art for the public. We talk in depth about how anger can be a destructive force and a danger for democracy, as well as a source of creativity when expressed in works of art, like in the installations by artist Henrike Naumann. Florian reminds us that art plays a inportant role in understanding and reflecting society and the human condition and that preserving our environment and having real human contact are what we need just now.

Episode 33

Episode 33 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Joanna Kamm, Director of Liste Art Fair, Basel
Episode 33, recorded March 15, 2021, 31 min. Language: english

My guest today is Joanna Kamm, Founder and Owner of the eponymous gallery from 2001 to 2014 in Berlin and since 2018 Director of Liste Art Fair, Basel. Joanna moved to Berlin in 1989, shortly before the wall came down. She talks about how that changed everything and that the atmosphere of „everything is possible“ opened up many opportunities for a whole generation. Joanna studied german Literature and Philosophy before she fell for art, first opening a project space before founding the gallery. She talks about the development of the gallery, that she always loved to discover artists and how her experiences as gallerist and as board member of ABC Berlin were invaluable for her current post at Director of Liste Art fair. She truly believes in humanistic values and the importance art has for Society. She gives some first hand and personal insights into the meaning galleries have for art, artists and cultural production. In the second half of the Podcast she talks about new ideas and projects for Liste, analog as well as digital, and some new and exciting plans for the upcoming fair in September 2021.  Episode 33, recorded March 15, 2021, 31 min. Language: english

Episode 32

Episode 32 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Mareike Dittmer, Director of Public Engagement at TBA21-Academy, Zürich, Switzerland
Recorded April 15, 2021. 53 min. Language: english

My guest today is Mareike Dittmer, Director of Public Engagement at TBA21-Academy, Zürich, Switzerland. Mareike’s skill is communication and she takes us onto an elaborate journey through her life. In the first part of this Episode Mareike talks her upbringing in East Germany, why she first trained in banking before attending art school and her diving into the underground artworld of 90s Berlin, working in London, her years at Frieze Magazine and her engagement with the 9th Futurological Congress and the Museum Susch in Engadin, Switzerland. In the 2nd half of the Podcast she speaks in depth about TBA21 Art Foundation and Academy, the Ocean Uni, the past year under Corona measurements and her plans and wishes for the future. She mentions many people she cherishes and cooperated with and shares her belief in serendipity, that she keeps her doors open for luck to come in and how she’s very glad that there seems to be a new sense of togetherness. 

Episode 31

Episode 31 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Grant Wahlquist, gallerist, writer, curator, Portland, Maine
March 2021, 36 min., Language: english

There are as many ways to become a gallery owner as there are galleries. A perfect example of somebody who treaded a completely individual path is my current guest Grant Wahlquist, owner of the eponymous gallery for contemporary art in Portland, Maine since 2017.
Grant has a broad education and studied a variety of topics. He seriously learned to play classical piano for 15 years, holds degrees in Philosophy, Art and Religion and even attended the fuller theological seminary.
Grant is a doctor of law, he was an associate at a law firm and worked as a freelance attorney before he became an art critic and a curatorial assistant at the Orange County Museum of Art, where he worked on exhibitions by artists like i.e. Peter Saul and Mary Heilman.
Grant talks about his studies and inclinations as a young man, the opportunities and challenges of opening a gallery outside of the big commercial hubs, his fascination with mid-career artists and how to combine business with cultural and philosophical integrity.
It’s a pleasure to listen to his reflections and insights about art, the gallery business and living a good life.

Episode 30

Episode 30 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Haley Mellin, painter and land conservationist, founder of „Art into Acres“.
A 38 min. in-depth talk with Haley, plus an extra 10 minutes of Haley Mellin interviewing Daniela Steinfeld. Recorded March 24, full length 49 min. Language: English.

In this talk, my guest is Haley Mellin, a painter and land conservationist. Haley founded „Art into Acres“, a non-profit initiative supporting artists and artworks in conserving large-scale landscapes for a positive impact on climate, biodiversity and irreplaceable ecosystems. She also founded conserve.org as a platform for people to be able to permanently conserve a single acre of land for the cost of a dinner out.
Her own painting practice happens „on the road“ while attending to conservation projects. She’s working with institutions like Hauser & Wirth, MOMA PS1, MOCA L.A., the Guggenheim and – very recently – the Kunstmuseum Bonn, to name just a few. A large part of her work is dedicated to supporting artists and smaller organisations like non-profits or galleries with their carbon footprints and how to reduce them.
Being an artist, she is the perfect intermediary between the land conservation organisations and the art world and entertains strong, trustful relations with the artists that donate their artworks and participants from the art community who are learning and looking into their carbon emissions through calculation and reduction approaches.
We discuss her upbringing and love for being outdoors, nurtured by her father, who held the view that „giving back is a large part of being alive.“ We talk about how she started painting and exhibiting at a young age and how art and conservation interlace in her life and practice. She shares her profound knowledge and deep insights into how art and conservation, both meant to last, go hand in hand.
This talk celebrates the 30th Episode of „Voices On Art,“ with Haley Mellin as a special guest and with a small „bonus track“: Haley unexpectedly started asking me questions herself.

Episode 29

Episode 29 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Elizabeth Dee, Advocate, Strategist, Publisher, Writer, Advisor and co-Founder of the Independent Art Fair, NYC, March 2021, 57 Min., Language: English

My guest for this talk is Elizabeth Dee, co-Founder of the Inpependent Art Fair and Director of the John Giorno Foundation. She ran her eponymous Gallery in NYC for 18 years and founded the X Intiative, from which Independent developed. Elizabeth now sees herself in a variety of roles –  a Collector, an Artist, a Curator, a Teacher, a Lecturer, a Strategist, an Advocate, an Entrepreneur, a Publisher, a Writer, an Advisor and the Director of an art fair. This is an almost one hour in depth talk about Elizabeth’s background, her upbringing and her studies at an all women’s college, her beginnings as an artist (and cellist) and the many decisions she made and the uncounted doors she went through in a more than 20 years career in the artworld. Coming from a non-privileged background she had to face some hardships and learned everything from scratch, which gave her knowledge about almost all fields of the artworld. She shares her expertise in how to run a gallery, how to develop an art fair – even under dire circumstances – and above all, her deep passion for art and artists. She is very honest and let’s us partake in her personal feelings, thoughts and experiences and thus gives us a lot to think and learn about.

Episode 28

Episode 28 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / JMichael Zimmer, art collector, entrepreneur, consultant, benefactor, founder of „The Inhabited Garden“, Pulheim
February 2021, 35 min., Language: English

My guest today is Michael Zimmer, entrepreneur, investor, consultant, art collector, founder of the sculpture park „The Inhabited Garden“ and editor of the book „A Sculpture Garden.“ Michael is extensively involved in social issues and has initiated or founded various foundations to help people in need. We talk his upbringing and how through art he got „a room on his own“ and that art was his refuge as a young man. He relates how he first studied art history before going into real estate and how he merged these two fields in his life. We talk in depth about his sculpture garden, what the main ideas are behind this unique project, how the international artists are selected and that it’s roots in Northrhine-Westphalia are very important to him. His deep interest lies with the human condition, so he is listening to his guests and extends his hospitality to the artists, their sculptures and anybody who visits the garden. To learn more go to their website: https://www.derbewohntegarten.de, there you find also information about the beautiful book „A Sculpture Garden“.

Episode 27

Episode 27 / VOICES ON ART – The VAN HORN Gallery Podcast / Jennifer Higgie, writer, author, editor and host of Bowdown Podcast, London, UK
February 2021, 38 min., Language: English

My guest today is Jennifer Higgie, writer and art critic. She has been Editor at Large for Frieze Magazine and is the host of Bowdown a wonderful Podcast about women in art history, she curated the Hayward touring and Arts Council exhibition „One Day, Something. Happens: Pictures of People“ and wrote and illustrated the children’s book „There’s Not One“. Currently she is working on various screenplays and writing projects. Her book „The Mirror and the Palette: 500 Years of Women’s Self-Portraits“ is forthcoming at Weidenfeld & Nicolson in March 2021. We discuss her art studies in Australia, her moving to London, her transition from artist to writer and her love for painting. We talk the importance of art criticism, the need to highlight all kinds of inequality, including gender inequality. We talk her Bowdown Podcast about women in art history, which is one of the best art Podcasts around and new upcoming book „The Mirror and the Palette: 500 years of Women Self-Portraits“, to be published in March 2021 at Weidenfeld & Nicolson. It’s a personal and insighful talk and I loved speaking to Jennifer. Recorded February 6, 2021.